Viledead

I remember - the lei shen trinket with 100% crit dooms and imp armies. Technically the class wasn't OP, the trinket was. But they not only nerfed the trinket, but also imp glyph, etc. Double whammy, spec dead. Sad because a well played demo lock was awfully rewarding. Anyways....I've ranted about it enough already - how blizz could gut a spec/class without any apparent thinking or consideration. I'm toying with a mage currently - amazing how much easier that class is, especially frost. In fact, I love playing a frost mage. I'm 550 with no cloak and doing more dps than the 556 demo lock with a cloak.

Any fights with adds that live for a bit really.

Here is the details on how to do it. Basically, load up dots with procs, sb:soulswap, then soulswap with 1 cast in between. Look at the meters at the start here - sure, he's in heroic gear, but aff locks are averaging over 500k dps on that fight. Top parses are over 1.2M.

Sparkuggz went into LFR with only a few items equipped - 200 item level, 2x trinkets, cloak, head+meta gem and non-stat gloves with Engineering on them.

This is what being a team member is all about. My two cents are this - you can't divide the base. Some will donate more. Some are always perfectly on time. Some are amazing at dps. Some will almost never die to mechanics. Some research fights in massive detail in advance. The challenge is common in the final tier - players centralize around guilds that are still effective at raiding. Those guilds progress more. Hardcore vs casual comes up. It's the cycle of WoW.

FYI as a baseline, I am 555 with no normal gear - only flex and months of ordos/celestials. Also in some cases prideful pvp > flex.

I bet 6.0 goes to PTR right after next pvp season starts, then 8 weeks from release of 6.0 is WoD. They are likely using SoO to test the tech.

I replaced you, upgrade from t dot.

lets watch patrick roy go after carlyle.

Demo is destroyed. After big 5.4 nerfs we wondered why uvls went untouched. In fact, it felt slightly better post 5.4. OK so theorycrafters still knew uvls had to get changed, so they anticipated and created a crit build. But then a hotfix went after warlocks only on the trinket AND a big imp dmg nerf. So now basically demonic fury gen has died and our aoe is much less. The spec is slow, more boring, and well behind aff for basically every fight. I don't like aff though. It really is bad behaviour by blizz to see them kill a spec that was superbly rewarding for playing well. Now if u play well, you only break even or less. On top of this remember that t15 was about increasing df and that's out now too. So yeah demo is gg. I still can't believe it was a hotfix - probably only to avoid hard core guilds racing to world first getting some tiny advantage.

You have to have it and you have to create a weakaura or something similar. On fallen protectors for example, you can get 3 100% crit dooms on all three targets rolling constantly. And one more strong piece of advice - go MF for T6, save fury and go crazy on add phases with immo aura. For instance, on sha of pride....even without knowing my trink procs (I had UI problems), I still did 200k. On dark shaman flex with 25 people, I did 270k on 1st attempt without knowing fight! Seriously, MF is sick on add fights. Edit: Many warlocks are sticking to KJC because of the comfort of moving while casting - but it's a serious dps loss on most of these fights in SoO. The 2x DS is nice on single-ish target fights (and allows you to line up procs better), and MF is an absolute requirement for add fights. TL:DR; GET MF FOR ADD FIGHTS!!!! Edit x2: Here is a link to my parse on flex 25m dark shaman, keep in mind my UI was effed up and I couldn't track UVLS and procs, so my dps was actually low..... http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-n7xgwqnfrtl84pd5/sum/damageDone/?s=4179&e=4524 Note that the other demo lock has the trinket from the 1st boss, which is what every demo warlock needs straight away to work with uvls. The only reason I beat him was because he didn't go MF...that immersius trinket is freaking OP for demo!

Well the base issue which is Demo is extremely viable but really requires UVLS micro to be competitive stays the same. The only core changes were tier 6 talents (which are actually better for us), imp swarm glyph not being needed, and corruption not refreshing on fel flame or void ray anymore.

This is for the demo locks in the guild - for the aff or destro locks, you don't exist because you suck at picking the best spec! Right now, LFR lei shen trinket is basically better than almost anything in SoO, even heroic. Basically, unless you will be downing heroic garrosh anytime soon, you should have ANY version of Lei Shen trinket (UVLS), and the trinket from immersius. Turns out that the proc changes for rppm actually somehow made our life better. It seems to proc more reliably, and more often. Perhaps it's a bug - and I can't imagine blizz wants lfr gear from previous tier to be better than almost all current tier....but it's true. So if you don't have UVLS you probably shouldn't be demo! What's interesting is that the immersius trinket is a % buff and may value mastery over all else. It works insanely well with UVLS as the extra crit dmg is amazing for the doom crit ticks. Also it scales with your gear, so it gets better as your gear improves. On tier 6 talent, there is NO case when you should be keeping KJC anymore. Default to the new AD for basic single target fights, and honestly MF is freaking amazing now. If you time it right you can do crazy burst with immo aura. So no more casting on the move? Yep...no problem though because apparently fel flame is almost equal to shadowbolt - in fact it is 3% more dps apparently, but the higher mana cost means it's slightly below. So fel flame is filler when moving, shadowbolt when standing still.

Of course - but there are baselines and if dps tbh is below 100k then a correction/improvement is needed as even with debuffs/etc that is quite low. If someone just sat there and tunnelled boss with 75% corruption they still would do more than 100k. So for example if you take the fallen protectors fight linked here from tonight: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-ifgkouebgmxecyw3/sum/damageDone/?s=2475&e=3098 Two things stand out - seems that mark of anguish isn't transferring (causing 2 to die), and dps across the board is low - people should be around 170k generally.

FYI the class specific stuff for SoO on icy veins has a lot of BS. Multidotting adds on immerseus is better then demo? LOL. If that's true then aff is even better for norushen as adds live longer. Icy veins even says affliction or destro is best for norushen over demo. So...yeah. odd.